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When the Europeans started “Krishna or Christ” assertions, Indians changed to “Christ and Krishna” surrenders! [2]  

June 23, 2020

When the Europeans started “Krishna or Christ” assertions, Indians changed to “Christ and Krishna” surrenders! [2]

T K V Rajan with Jeyaraj, Loyola Principal 2010

Christ and Krishna exhibition continued (Feb.2012): The exhibition organized on Christ and Krishna, an archaeological journey, held by the Indian Science Monitor, reportedly provided more enchanting information about the hidden secrets of a distant age, beyond the images of excavations of skeletons corresponding to the size of Goliath as per the Biblical account[1].  The expo showcased milestones in the arduous effort to find corroborative evidence to the narratives found in the Bible and the Mahabaratha[2]. He added further, “My exhibition CHRIST AND KRISHNA was well received in a number of places[3]. It was through this exhibition that we show the archaeological sites connected with both of them[4]. We should do this exhibition in Coimbatore too. It’s a pure archaeological exhibition and visitors can get to see the image of the Lord Krishna coin issued by Indo Greek ruler Agathocles (the coin was discovered through the Ai Khanoum excavations in Afghanistan). Dr. Nanditha Krishna of the C.P.R Foundation was all praise for this when it was exhibited at Chennai some years ago. The exhibition also includes a number of images of sites connected with Lord Jesus Christ alongside pictures of places like the Prema Sarovara in Vrindavan where Lord Krishna met Radharani. Nanita Krishna was commenting upon the work of Rajan[5]. Western scholars tried to establish a connection between Krishna and Christ, claiming that the former was derived from St Thomas’ teachings about the latter, but literature and archaeology have proved otherwise[6].

TKV Rajan book on Kashmir released

T.K.V. Rajan and Christology linking St.Thomas myth: The activities, speeches and attempts of  TKV Rajan have been intriguing.

  1. He claimed, “My exhibition CHRIST AND KRISHNA was well received in a number of places[7].
  2. It was through this exhibition that we show the archaeological sites connected with both of them[8], i.e, Christ and Krishna.
  3. He claims that “Under the tutelage of Fr James at Loyola College, Chennai, TKV Rajan gathered biblical research.
  4. Between 2016 and 2019 I visited the USA and lectured on “Christ and Krishna -Archaeological Journey” at the Ramakrishna Vedanta Society in Dallas.
  5. He already appreciated that, “Archeologists in Europe have traced the precise spot of Jesus’s birth, St Peter’s house visited by Jesus, boats used during his time, his crucifix and even skeletons of giants who existed before the reign of King David. On the other hand, Hastinapur excavated in 1952, has not been touched again. There is so much to study in Kurukshetra and Mathura”.
  6. Fr. B. Jeyaraj, S.J., Principal, Loyola College was invited to inaugurate his exhibition and he commented that One should live to the ideals of Bhagavat Gita, which was given to the humanity by Lord Krishna.
  7. Nanditha Krishna of the C.P.R Foundation was all praise for this when it was exhibited at Chennai some years ago. The exhibition also includes a number of images of sites connected with Lord Jesus Christ alongside pictures of places like the Prema Sarovara in Vrindavan where Lord Krishna met Radharani. Nanita Krishna was commenting upon the work of Rajan[9]. Western scholars tried to establish a connection between Krishna and Christ, claiming that the former was derived from St Thomas’ teachings about the latter, but literature and archaeology have proved otherwise[10].
  8. Thus, the whole affair becomes murky and doudy with raising a reasonable question as to why all these have been batting for St.Thomas, Christ, etc.

He goes to Vaishnavite mutt and poses as a Vaishnavite, but, also tries to equate “Christ and Krishna”! Note, he puts Christ always before Krishna in his exhibitions, talks and publicities. As an archaeologist and researcher, he must have known the chronology and then he could not have put cart before the horse. The expression, putting cart before the horse connotes, “The expression cart before the horse is an idiom or proverb used to suggest something is done contrary to a conventional or culturally expected order or relationship”. And he had done and perhaps doing.

TKV Rajan batting for Jesus Christ.USA meeting

Krishna or Christ, or Christ and Chrishna?: Here, I quote the following from K.V. Ramakrishna Rao about the issue[11]:

“In India, the Christian mind was terribly upset by the Puranic narratives of Flood, the Fish God saviour of the humanity, Narayana – the protecting and Saviour God, Christna, Chrishna or Krishna[12] and other related concepts.

From C.F.C. Volney[13] to J. M. Robertson[14], the “Krishna-Christ” binary archetypes baffled the Christologists. Therefore, after discussing and debating about the religious necessity of keeping one God for India with the choice between “Krishna” and “Christ”, the colonial theologians decided to impose the imported Christ replacing Krishna[15]……..John P. Jones[16] carried out his tirade against Krishna delivering lectures at the Andover, Hale, Harvard and other theological seminaries and at the Western Reserve University in 1902 and it was later published as a book entitled “India’s Problem Krishna or Christ”. His tirade against the Hindu religion had been acrimonious, vitrupous and blasphemous, couched with the missionary style of presentation.

TKV rajan - Christ or Krishna, inter-faith presentation!

  1. ……….worship of Krishna and is given to the indulgence of poisonous and characterized by gross licentiousness[17].
  2. …………….cult of Bhakti is connected with Krishnalatory which is the worship of the most unworthy and licentious god of Hindu pantheon[18].
  3. There is no finality of blessing supposed…………………Krishna representing the worst type of sensuality and moral obliquity[19].

TKV Rajan batting for Jesus Christ.Bible archaeology

Thus, the nature of Krishna and Krishna worship are characterized as follows:

  • The worship of Krishna is Krishnalatory
  • It is given to the indulgence of poisonous.
  • It is characterized by gross licentiousness.
  • It is the most unworthy
  • It is that of licentious god of Hindu pantheon.
  • Krishna representing the worst type of sensuality
  • Krishna representing the worst type ofmoral obliquity.

M A Venkatakrishnan, TKV, T S Krishnamurthy, Karthikeyan

Therefore, the Christian hatred, acrimony and virulent attacks are revealing. The same language is only transformed to arrogant language as “…………………the church ignores nothing that is sacred on the earth……………..” (emphasis added), yet, the naïve, gullible, meek, mild and knave Hindus continued to be so, in spite of all onslaughts, inquisition and verbal terrorism. Thus, the elite Vaishnavites of Tamilnadu go on appreciate the comparative study of Christianity and Vaishnavism, Christ and Krishna, Mother Goddess and divine goddess etc., without knowing or understanding their minds. It is not that one Jesuit appreciates and another Jesuit depreciates or deprecates; glorifies and blasphemes; praises and denigrates…….but, the strategy, as practised a tactic by the trained Christian priests is pointed out. Having recorded explicitly[20] that, “……it would be sacrilege to compare the character of any one of them (Hindu Gods) with the wonderful incarnation of Jesus”, what is the fun of again and again to compare Jesus with Krishna or Christ with Krishna? Even today books are coming out making such comparisons[21]. When the Christians have already declared that it is “beyond compare”, what is the compromise made by writers to compare?”

TKV Rajan as Vaishavite

Conclusion: Time and again, unfortunately, educated elite Hindus only fall prey to the sophisticated, well-trained and expertise Christians. Of course, they would be members of the Society of Jesus, but, the meek, mild naïve Hindus do not have such organizations. Many times, Hindus compromise for some benefits, foreign visit, an invitation for a talk, and such other thing, without understanding the nuances of “dialogue,” inter and intra religious dialogues and the processes of inculturation.  The case of TKV Rajan could not have been exceptional, as he has been a knowledgeable and well-aware of person. He goes to Vaishnaviite mutts, moves with Acharya donning traditional dress and sporting sandal paste on his forehead, but, gives lecture on the Christ and Bible with suit-boot-coat attire with books in his armpit, as if, going for a theological war. Therefore, it is unbelievable that he was not aware of the well-researched books written by Constantin-Volney, Charles Dupuis, David Friedrich Strauss, John Remsburg, Arthur Drews, William B. Smith, Paul-Louis Couchoud, J.M.Robertson, and others. Unless, he tells, one could know what happened to him. But, he has affected Hindus and Hindu religion , but compromising, collaborating and co-operating with such comparative studies.

© Vedaprakash


TKV rajan - Krishna in Radha-krishna temple Dellas 2018

[1] News.18 / Indian Express, Was Goliath for real?, LAST UPDATED: FEBRUARY 18, 2012, 8:48 AM IST

TKV Rajan, 09380554557


[3] simpli-city, For assimilating history without bias – Lord Krishna and Jesus Christ on the same palette, Rajesh Govindarajulu, Dec 02, 2017 13:54:04.


[5], Krishna Archeology, Nanditha Krishna,;


[7] simpli-city, For assimilating history without bias – Lord Krishna and Jesus Christ on the same palette, Rajesh Govindarajulu, Dec 02, 2017 13:54:04.


[9], Krishna Archeology, Nanditha Krishna,;


[11] K.V.Ramakrisha Rao, A Critical analysis of “Christian-Vaishnavite Comparative Studies” in the context of “Inter-faith / religious dialogue” and “Inculturation”, it was supposed to appear in a book proposed by Sandhya Jain and others. For some reasons, it is yat to see the light.

[12]Christna, Chrishna, Cristna, Crishna are the words and expressions found recorded in the literature denoting to “Krishna”, the Hindu protecting and Saviour God.

[13]C. F. C. Volney, , The Ruins, or Meditation on the Revolutions of Empires and the Law of Nature, Truth Seeker Co., New York, 1890.

[14]J. M. Robertson, Hindu Mythology and Christianity, Swati Publications, New Delhi, 1989.

[15]John  P. Jones, India’s Problem: Krishna or Christ, Fleming H. Revell Company, London and Edinburgh, 1903.

[16] John  P. Jones, India’s Problem: Krishna or Christ, Fleming H. Revell Company, London and Edinburgh, 1903.

[17] Ibid, p.65.

[18] Ibid, p.76.

[19] Ibid, pp.95-96.

[20] Ibid, p.95.

[21]Steven J. Rosen, Christ and Krishna: Where the Jordan meets the Ganges, Rosen, USA, 2011.

Mary, krishna, inculturation

நித்யானந்தாவும், லீலா சாம்ஸனும்: பதவியேற்றம், பதவியிறக்கம் – கலாச்சார-மத சம்பந்தமான நிறுவனங்களில் நியமனங்கள்-சர்ச்சைகள்!

May 2, 2012

நித்யானந்தாவும், லீலா சாம்ஸனும்: பதவியேற்றம், பதவியிறக்கம் – கலாச்சார-மத சம்பந்தமான நிறுவனங்களில் நியமனங்கள்-சர்ச்சைகள்!

கலாச்சார நிறுவனங்களில் அரசு நியமனம்: ஒரு முஸ்லீம் அல்லது கிருத்துவ நிறுவனத்தில் ஒரு இந்து எப்பொழுதும் நிர்வாகியாக, தலைவராக, ஆளுனராக நியமிக்கப்படுவதில்லை. அவ்வாறு நினைப்பதே தவறானது, பாவமானது ஏன் மாபெரும் குற்றமாகக் கருதப் படுகிறது. ஸ்ரீ ஆதிசங்கரர் சமஸ்கிருத பல்கலைகழகத்திற்கு, முஸ்லீம், நாத்திகர், கம்யூனிஸ்ட் என்று பலர் துணைவேந்தர்களாக நியமிக்கப் படுகின்றனர். முஸ்லீம் அல்லது கிருத்துவ சார்புடைய பல்கலைக்கழகத்திற்கு ஒரு இந்து துணைவேந்தராக முடியாது. சோனியா மெய்னோ ஒரு கத்தோலிக்க எதேச்சதிகாரி என்பதால், பல குறிப்பிட்ட பதவிகளில் கிருத்துவர்கள் நியமிக்கப் பட்டுள்ளார்கள் என்பது தெரிந்த விஷயமே. அம்பிகா சோனி என்று வலம் வரும் அமைச்சரே கிருத்துவர் தாம். இது கூட பலருக்கு தெரியாது. மேலும் அவர்கள் “உள்கலாச்சாரமயமாக்கல்” என்ற கொள்கையைப் பின்பற்றுவதால், கிருத்துவர்களாக மாறினாலும், இந்துக்களைப் போலவே பெயர்களை தொடர்ந்து வைத்துக் கொண்டு, உடை-அலங்காரம் செய்துகொண்டு உலா வருகிறார்கள்.

லீலா சாம்ஸன் கலாச்சேத்திரத்தின் இயக்குனராக நியமிக்கப் பட்டார்: லீலா சாம்ஸன் என்ற கிருத்துவ நாடகி கலாச்சேத்திரத்தின் இயக்குனராக 2005ல் நியமிக்கப் பட்டார். அப்பொழுது அவர் கிருத்துவர் என்று யாரும் எண்ணவில்லை. லீலா சாம்ஸன் சந்தேகமில்லாமல் நிச்சயமாக ஒரு திறமைமிக்க நர்த்தகிதான். ஆனால், அவர் கலாசேத்திராவின் இயக்குனராக பதவியேற்றபோது, யாரும் அவரது நடனத்திறமையில் எந்த மாற்று-எதிர்க்கருத்தையோ கொண்டிருக்கவில்லை. ஆனால், சிறிது சிறிதாக அவர் ஏற்படுத்திய மாற்றங்கள் அல்லது மாறுதல்கள், நிச்சயமாக சிலரின் மனங்களில் கேள்விகளை எழுப்பின. இப்பொழுது கூட இந்தியன் எக்ஸ்பிரஸில், லீலா சாம்ஸனை ஆதரித்து இப்படி ஒரு கருத்து மானினி சட்டர்ஜி என்ற பெண்மணியால் பதிவுசெய்யப்பட்டுள்ளது[1].

Attack on Leela SamsonLeela Samson, famous Bharatanatyam dancer and current head of the prestigious Kalakshetra Foundation in Chennai, is the target of a vicious attack this week. According to writer P. Deivamuthu, the Mumbai-based editor of Hindu Voice, Samson “has destroyed the values for which this institution stands for and is still continuing the destruction in a subtle way.

Her alleged crimes include a “disdain” for idol worship, removal of Vinayaka idols for which regular poojas used to be conducted by students, discouragement of prayers within Kalakshetra, and setting up a movie club “which has completely spoilt the gurukulam atmosphere of this traditional institution.” She is also accused of planning to demolish the temple structure of the Kalakshetra Auditorium[2] “under the pretext of modernising it”, removing religious symbols which earlier adorned the certificates issued by the institution, and removing earlier restrictions and “thus encouraging the meeting of boys and girls in any hostel room at any time of the day and night.”

There is no mention of the fact that Leela Samson is herself an illustrious alumnus of the institution[3]. Instead, the author says “members of the performing arts world outside Kalakshetra Foundation and members of the Hindu community should initiate an action immediately to stop the planned destruction of a glorious institution teaching and nurturing the ancient traditions of Sanatana Dharma.”

உபி தேர்தலில் இருந்து ஆரம்பித்து, பி.ஜே.பியின் வரும் தேர்தல் யுக்தி என்று விவரித்து லீலா சாம்ஸனில் வந்து முடிக்கிறார் அந்த பெண்மணி.

ஊடகக்காரர்களின் பாரபட்ச, நடுநிலைமையற்ற கருத்துகள்-எழுத்துகள்: எனவே, இதைப் பற்றி அலச வேண்டியுள்ளது. துரதிருஷ்டவசமாக ஊடகத்துறையில் உள்ளவர்களில் பெரும்பாலானவர்கள் மேற்கத்தைய கலாச்சாரத்தில் ஊன்றியிருக்கிறார்கள் அல்லது சித்தாந்தங்களில் கட்டுண்டுக் கிடக்கிறார்கள். இந்த நாட்டின் கலாச்சாரம், பாரம்பரியம், நாகரிகம், தொன்மை முதலிய விஷயங்களில் உண்மைக்குப் புறம்பான பல கருத்துகளைக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார்கள். குறிப்பாக இந்து மதத்தைப் பற்றி பல தவறுதலான, எதிர்மறையான எண்ணங்களைக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார்கள். அதனால். இந்து மதம், இந்துக்கள் என்றாலே அவர்களுக்கு, அவையெல்லாம் ஏதோ ஆர்.எஸ்.எஸ், பி,ஜே.பி விவகாரங்களைப் போல சித்திரிக்கிறார்கள் அல்லது அவ்வாறே முடிவாக எடுத்துக் கொள்கிறார்கள். மற்றவர்கள் இந்துக்களின் பிரச்சினைகளை அலசினாலோ, விமர்சித்தாலோ, அல்லது இந்துக்களின் உரிமைகள் பற்றி பேசுவது-எழுதுவது செய்தாலோ அவ்வாறே முத்திரைக் குத்துகிறார்கள். இதனால், பல இந்துக்கள், நமக்கேன் இந்த வம்பு என்று சும்மா இருந்துவிடுகிறார்கள்; சில அதிகபிரங்கி இந்துக்கள் மற்றவர்களின் நல்லபெயர் வாங்கிக் கொள்ளவேண்டும் என்பதற்காக இந்து-விரோத கருத்துகளை, விமர்சனங்களையும் செய்து வருகிறார்கள், இரண்டுமே இந்துமதத்திற்கு சாதகமானவை அல்ல என்று அவர்கள் புரிந்து கொள்ள வேண்டும். லீலா சாம்ஸன் விவகாரத்தில் இது அதிகமாகவே வெளிப்பட்டுள்ளன.

லீலா சாம்ஸன் யார்? ஏனிந்த சச்சை? லீலா சாம்ஸன் பெஞ்சமின் அப்ரஹாம் சாம்ஸன் என்ற யூதமத ராணுவ அதிகாரிக்கும், லைலா என்ற இந்திய கத்தோலிக்கப் பெண்மணிக்கும் 1951ல் பிறந்தார். பேட்டிகளில் தனது தந்தையார் இரண்டாயிரம் வருடங்களுக்கு இந்தியாவிற்கு வந்த பெனி-இஸ்ரவேலர்களுடைய பரம்பரையைச் சேர்ந்தர் என்று கூறி பெருமைப் பட்டுக்கொள்கிறார் (My father was part of the Bene-Israelites who came to India two millennia ago[4]). என்னுடைய பெயர் யூதமதத்தினுடையதாக இருக்கிறது, ஆனால் பழக்க-வழக்கங்களில் நானொரு கத்தோலிக்கப் பெண்மணி, இருப்பினும் நடைமுறையில் இந்து என்றும் சொல்லிக் கொள்கிறார் (“I’m Jewish by name. I’m Catholic by habit. I’m Hindu by practice.”). பி.ஏ பட்டம் பெற்று ருக்மணி அருந்தேல் கீழ் பரத நாட்டியம் கற்றார்[5].  ஹில்லரி கிளிண்டன் இந்தியாவிற்கு வந்தபோது, இவரை சந்தித்துள்ளார். மேற்கத்தையபாணியில் அவரது வருகையை இவ்வாறு சித்தரிக்கப் பட்டுள்ளது[6].

அதில் பரதநாட்டியம் ஏதோ கேவலமானது என்றும், அதனை உய்க்கவந்தவர்களே இந்த லீலா தாம்ஸன் போன்றவர்கள் என்று விவரிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது வேடிக்கையாக இருக்கிறது. பரதநாட்டியம் கீழ்த்தரமானது மற்றும் ஆபாசமானது என்றிருந்தபோதுதான், ருக்மணி இதனை குருகுல சம்பிரதாயத்தில் பிரமலமாக்கி, சமூகத்தில் ஏற்புடையதாக்கினார். அதுமட்டுமல்லாது, அருண்டேல் என்ற ஆங்கிலேயரை மணந்து கொண்டு, சம்பிரதாயத்தை உடைத்தெரிந்தார். Interestingly, decades ago, Chennai’s orthodox community shunned this institution that is praised today as an upholder of Tamil art and culture—and where visiting dignitaries are taken to showcase the best of the arts. Its founder Rukmini Devi Arundale faced immense social pressure in the 1930s when she learnt Bharatanatyam, which was considered a lowly and vulgar art form by the upper classes. Despite the opposition, she learnt dance from Devadasi women or temple dancers and set up the Kalakshetra Foundation in 1936, which embraced the gurukul system that allowed students to stay on campus and learn the art form. Arundale, who also broke convention by marrying a Britisher, George Arundale, finally did succeed in making Bharatanatyam socially acceptable.

Rani David laid down facts and demonstrated that Christianity existed along with Bharatanatyam and Sanga Thamizh, but history lost in time has given Christianity a western outlook[7].

அவர் செய்த மாற்றங்கள் என்று விவாதிக்கப்பட்டவை[8]:

  1. கணேசன் / விநாயகரின் விக்கிரகத்தை அகற்றினார்[9].
  2. அதனை மாணவர்கள் வழிபடுவதை தடுத்தார்.
  3. தியோசோபிகல் தத்துவத்தின்படி விக்கிரகங்கள் வழிபடுவதில்லை என்று தனது காரியத்திற்கு அவரே விளக்கம் அளித்துள்ளார்.
  4. கீதகோவிந்தம் என்ற நடத்தில், மாணவர்களுக்கு கொச்சையான சைகைகளை “முத்திரைகள்” என்ற போர்வையில் கற்றுக் கொடுக்கப் படுகின்றன[10].
  5. அவர் ஒரு கிருத்துவர் என்பதனால், இவ்வாறு செய்கிறார்[11].
Kalakshetra never had idols that were worshipped. A lamp was all that was lit in every place we worshipped, according to Theosophical principles and the highest philosophical principles upheld by our elders. However, one of the wardens, now retired, collected on her own and without the instruction from the management, and much after Athai and Sankara Menon’s time, 4 Ganeshas and had them placed outside the dining hall on a pathway, through which all stores and workers pass. It was a place without sanctity. Students were forced to contribute towards pujas and vastrams for the images. All this had to be stopped. It would not have been encouraged nor allowed in Athai’s time. We decided instead, to put each of the Ganeshas, one in each of the hostel blocks, on a pedestal where the students would look after the images.
In 2005, Samson was appointed as the new director of Kalakshetra. In 2006, she provoked a media storm by justifying the elimination of the spiritual roots of Bharata Natyam. Trouble started in 2006 when Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, the head of “Art of living” meditation, expressed his concern over the attempt of Leela Sampson to thwart the participation of Kalakshetra students in the inaugural function of a “Health and Bliss” religious course being conducted by him in Chennai. According to Ananda Vikatan, a popular Tamil weekly, the most disturbing aspect was the reason cited by Leela Samson. She explained: “This function is concerned with Hindu religion. So Kalakshetra students need not participate in it[12]. 2006ல் ஆரோக்கியமும், அந்தோஷமும் என்ற நிகழ்ச்சி “ஆர்ட் ஆப் லிவிங்” என்ற அமைப்பின் சார்பில் சென்னையில் நடந்தது. செக்யூலரிஸ போர்வையில் லீலா சாம்ஸன் கலாச்சேத்திர மாணவர்கள் ரவிசங்கர் ஏற்பாடு செய்துள்ள நிகழ்ச்சியில் கலந்து கொள்ளவேண்டாம், ஏனென்றால் அது ஒரு இந்துமத நிகழ்ச்சி என்று விளக்கம் அளித்து தடுத்தது, சர்ச்சையை பெரிதாக்கியது[13].

அதோடல்லாமல், சிலரின் போக்குவரத்தும் அதிகமாகியது. அதாவது கிருத்துவர்கள் வந்து செல்ல ஆரம்பித்தனர். இங்கு பல கிருத்துவர்கள், குறிப்பாக வெளிநாட்டவர் பயின்று வந்தாலும், வித்தியாசமாகப் பார்ப்பதில்லை. ஆனால், சர்ச்சை எழுந்த பின்னர், அவர்கள் போக்குவரத்து வேறுவிதமாகவே பாவிக்கப்பட்டது. இதையறிந்த கலாசேத்திராவின் பாரம்பரிய உறுப்பினர்கள், அக்கரையாளர்கள் வருத்தம் அடைந்தனர். பற்பல நிலைகளில் இதைப் பற்றி சர்ச்சைகளும் ஏற்பட்டு விவாதிக்கப் பட்டன[14]. இவையெல்லாம் “பிரக்ருதி பவுண்டேஷன்” என்ற இணைத்தளத்தில் விவாதிக்கப் பட்டுள்ளன. அங்கு லீலா தாம்ஸனை ஆதரித்து கருத்துகள் இருந்தாலும், அதிலிருந்து பிரச்சினை என்ன என்று அறியமுடிகின்றது. இந்நிலையில் தான் அவர் பதவி விலகினார் என்ற செய்தி வருகிறது.

ராஜினாமா பற்றி முரண்பட்ட செய்திகள்: லீலா தாம்ஸன் ராஜினாமா கடிதம் கொடுத்ததாக முதலில் செய்தி வந்தது. அவருடைய வயது குறித்து விவாதம் வந்ததால் ராஜினாமா செய்ததாக செய்தி. கலாசேத்திரத்தின் தலைவர் கோபால கிருஷ்ண காந்தி, லீலா தாம்ஸனின் ராஜினாமா ஏற்றுக் கொள்ளப்படுவதாகவும், அது அவர் உள்மனதில் இருந்த வந்துள்ள வெளிப்பாடாக தான் எடுத்துக் கொள்வதாகவும், மக்களின் பலதரப்பட்ட விமர்சனங்களின் விளக்கங்களுக்குட்பட்டாத எடுத்துக் கொள்ளவில்லை என்றும், மேலும் கலாச்சார அமைச்சகம் அத்தகைய நியமனங்களை செய்வதால், ராஜினாமாவை ஏற்றுக் கொள்ளப்படுவதைப் பற்றிய முடிவு அங்குதான் உள்ளது என்றும் கூறியுள்ளார்[15]. இருப்பினும் “தி ஹிந்து” இதனை கீழே போட்டு, மேலே அவர் தொடர்வதற்கு அனைவரும் ஆதரவாக உள்ளதாக – “Kalakshetra board members want Leela to continue” செய்தி வெளியிட்டுள்ளது[16].

கிருத்துவரே கிருத்துவரின் மீது வழக்குத் தொடுப்பது: சென்ற ஜூன் 2011ல் சி.எஸ். தாமஸ் என்ற கலாச்சேத்திரத்தின் ஓய்வு பெற்ற ஆசிரியர், 60 வயதைத் தாண்டியும், லீலா சாம்ஸன் பதவியில் இருப்பதைச் சுட்டிக் காட்டி சென்னை உயர்நீதி மன்றத்தில் மனு ஒன்றை தாக்குதல் செய்தார்[17]. இப்படி கிருத்துவரே கிருத்துவரின் மீது வழக்குத் தொடுப்பதை செக்யூலரிஸமாக எடூத்துக் கொள்ளவேண்டாம். இது ராபர்டோ நொபிலி காலத்திலிருந்து பின்பற்றப்பட்டு வரும் யுக்திதான். ஆமாம், அப்பொழுது கிருத்துவர் தான் நொபிலி கிருத்துவத்தை சீர்குலைக்கிறார் என்று குற்றஞ்சாட்டப்பட்டு, தண்டனக்க்குள்ளாக்கபட்டார். 30 ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்பு, ஆச்சார்ய பால் என்பவர் மீது ஆர்ச் பிஷப் அருளப்பா வழக்கு தொடர்ந்தார். இப்பொழுது தாமஸ், லீலா தாம்ஸன் மீது வழக்குத் தொடர்ந்துள்ளார்.

பதவி இல்லையென்றாலும், நாட்டியம் உள்ளது: இப்படி கூறி ராஜினாமா செய்துள்ளார். அப்படியென்றால், ஏன் நாட்டியத்தை விட்டு பதவிக்கு வந்தார் என்ற கேள்வி எழுகின்றது. பதவி மீது ஆசையா, இல்லை இன்னும் செய்ய வேண்டிய பணிகள் பாக்கியுள்ளனவா என்று தெரியவில்லை. ஆரம்பத்திலிருந்தே, சர்ச்சைகள் வெளிப்படையாக வந்துவிட்டப் பிறகு, முன்னரே ராஜினாமா செய்து சென்ரிருக்க வேண்டும். அவ்வாறு செல்லாததால்தான், இப்பொழுது கிருத்துவர்களுக்கேயுரித்த வகையில் நீதிமன்றம், வழக்கு என்றெல்லாம் சென்றுள்ளது. உண்மையில் கலைச்சேவைதான் மகேசன் சேவை என்றால், பாரம்பரியப்படி ஆசிரமம் அமைத்து, ஏழை-எளிய மாணவி-மாணவர்களுக்கு நாட்டியம் சொல்லிக் கொடுக்கலாம். இசைக்கல்லூரியின் தலைவராகி சேவை செய்யலாம். ஆனால், அனைத்தையும் விடுத்து, கலாச்சேத்திராவை பிடித்தது தான் விவகாரமாகியுள்ளது.

அமைச்சகம் இது பற்றி கருத்து கேட்டதற்கு, 60 வயது ஆகியிருந்தால், அவர் ஓய்வு பெற்றிருக்கவேண்டும், இருப்பினும் 28-02-2005 அன்று அவரது நியமன ஆணையில் மற்றும் கலாச்சேத்திரா சட்டத்தின் பிரிவுகளில் அவ்வாறு குறிப்பிடப்படவில்லை என்று அதிகாரி விளக்கம் அளித்துள்ளார்[18]. In response, the undersecretary to the government of India had informed him that ” Leela Samson, director, Kalakshetra Foundation should have retired at the age of 60 years even though the age of retirement is not mentioned in the Kalakshetra Foundation Act[19], or in the recruitment rules for the post of director nor in the order of appointment (notification) dated February 28, 2005″.

இப்பிரச்சினை கமிட்டி கூட்டத்தில் ஏப்ரல் 12, 2012 விவாதத்திற்கு அன்று வந்ததால், இப்பொழுது ஊடகங்களில் வர ஆரம்பித்துள்ளன.



[5] She is the daughter of Vice-Admiral (Ret) Benjamin Abraham Samson, from the Jewish Bene-Israelite community of India, and Laila, a Roman Catholic Indian. After doing her B.A., she learnt Bharatanatyam at the Kalakshetra under the founder Rukmini Devi Arundale.

[12] ஆனந்த விகடன், வார இதழ், டிசம்பர் 20, 2006.

[15] Chairman of the Kalakshetra board Gopalkrishna Gandhi said: “Leela Samson’s decision to leave her position as director of Kalakshetra was taken in the autonomy of her moral intelligence. Relinquishings such as hers should be taken in the light and echo of her inner voice, not in the script of other people’s vocabularies. We must respect her decision and that of the Ministry of Culture. The Ministry appoints the director, and the Ministry alone can decide on her resignation.”

[16] The Hindu, Kalakshetra board members want Leela to continue, Chennai edition, April 29, 2012;

[17] In June 2011, C S Thomas, a retired teacher at Kalakshetra, had filed a writ petition in the Madras high court challenging the legality of Samson remaining director of the foundation after the age of 60, the statutory retirement age for Central government employees. After she resigned on April 12, Samson said the issue had come up in a board meeting on April 10 and she saw no reason to stay on in the post if she did not have the support of the ministry, the chairman and the board.

[18] According to the Kalakshetra Act, appointments to the post of director are governed by the Ministry of Tourism and Culture, Department of Culture, Kalakshetra Foundation, Chennai, (Director) Recruitment Rules, 2002. Although the rules specify 55 as the upper age limit for a person to assume the post of director, they do not mention a retirement age.

“Beyond compare” and Christian-Vaishnavite encounters!

July 31, 2009

“Beyond compare” and Christian-Vaishnavite encounters

Recently,  the book, “Beyond compare” written by Francis Xavier Clooney, Professor of  Theology, Harvard University appears to have created a lot of heat among the Vaishnavites.

Beyond compare: Wrapper of the book

Beyond compare: Wrapper of the book

About the comparison of Vedanta Desikan and Francis de Sales, they have not only relished, but also raised serious objections.

Beyond Compare is an amazing book. The research is thorough and the appreciation of Sri Vedanta Desika’s thoughts and writings prove beyond doubt that this Harvard Divinity School Professor has imbibed the teachings of our great Teacher in the true spirit of a Srivaishnava. The comparative study of St.Francis de Sales’ Treatise and Swami Desika’s Srimad Rahasyatrayasara makes most interesting reading and invites Srivaishnavas to read about the Catholic saint’s ideas on loving surrender to God. Beyond Compare is truly beyond compare! .”—Anuradha Sridharan, associate editor, Sri Nrsimhapriya


In his commentary, Clooney achieves multiple goals—the book is a contribution to Christian spiritual theology, highlighting for today the beautiful insights into love by St. Francis de Sales (1567-1623), Doctor of the Church. At the same time it points out how even in our world of many religious paths, we can recover and deepen the ancient tradition of loving surrender into God’s hands by opening ourselves to the wisdom of India and one of Hindu India’s most famous traditions of loving God, explained to us by the south Indian Hindu theologian Sri Vedanta Desika (1268-1369). Clooney goes further, offering a comparative study of these classic works in which he self-consciously writes about the process of reading the two works and the impact this approach has on the reader. The good advice found through this deep engagement with these texts offers a deeper insight into how we can most fruitfully and spiritually think about religious pluralism in the 21st century, remaining open in heart and mind while loyal still to our own tradition.

As mentioned elsewhere, some of them have been unhappy the way in which he is being encouraged and promoted by the Vaishnavites of India and abroad.

the preface of the book can be seen here:

Click to access 9781589012110_Preface.pdf

Table of content can be seen here:

Click to access 9781589012110_TOC.pdf

In the process of “inculturation”, no Christian has ever hidden their agenda and therefore, it is quite amusing that these learned Vaishnavite elites would not know Clooney’s motive.

Francis X. Clooney Anand Amaladass

Francis Clooney and Anand Amaladass have brought several books on the subject of “comparative theology”.

Having helped him, as could seen in the reports available as early as 1992, there is no meaning in crying wolf about his activities.

Since 2005, there has been a feeling that Clooney has been going beyond the limits in his methods of “inculturation” involving his friends in such “inter faith dialogues” with or without their knowledge.

M A Venkatakrishnan Anbil Ramaswamy

It is learnt that under the auspices of “Centre for Policy Studies”, Clooney was reportedly invited for a “dialogue” and he was allowed to speak. But later, when discussion time, the attended scholars and others reportedly appreciated him and even honoured him with salvai and all. Only S. Gurumurthy asked one question pointing out that his writings had been addressed to the western audience E for which Clooney replied in affirmative!

S. Gurumurthy Velukkudi Krishnan

How Catholic Clooney became a Vaishnavite researcher!

July 31, 2009

How Catholic Clooney became a Vaishnavite researcher!


As the interview given by Clooney to “Frontline” and the write-up appeared in 2006, the following interview of Clooney appeared in Kumudham dated 05-11-1992 has also been revealing. Therefore, I have decoded to translate and post for the benefit of all:

What is Saranagathi? The debate between Catholic priest Clooney and Agnihotram Ramanujachariyar!

Agnihotram Ramanujachariyar, an expert in the Tamil associated with Vaishnavism and Sanskrit literature and Francis Clomney, an American Christian priest, who had come to India to research into Vaishnavism had met and debated. Cloooney had already come to him few years ago (1990-91?) and learned Mimamsam from him. The dialogue had been as followsd:

Clooney: The Vaishnavite scripture has emphasized only the “Saranagathi tatva”, which I would like to know from you.

Agni: It is very simple, the “Saranagathi tatva” means total surrender and it is common to all. Instead of sacrificing body, physical entity and soul separately, the total and complete surrender of all has been the real “Saranagathi tatva”. “Namaha” means the total surrender. “ma” means, “mine”; “na” means “not”; thus, that is nothing to me and thus surrendering totally has been the real meaning.

Clooney: I have read in Pasurams, “I have entered below your feet”. Does this status resembles exactly the Sanskrit word “Saranagathi” or not?

Agni: “Saranagathi” means not exactly “falling at the feet” or as described. Without any way or path, (when man) “falling at feet” only has been the “Saranagathi”.

What Vedas have taught has been a kind of Bakti. The popular Bakti has been that of what is followed Nammazhgvar. This has been the category of approaching God with right.

Clooney: You have explained very nicely (about the “Saranagathi tatva”). I am very happy to have met you today.

Bama Gopalan’s interview with Clooney:

“My native place is New York. I was born in 1950 and my father, mother, sisters (elder and younger) are there. I have no (younger) brother. My father has been a retired Police Officer after serving for thirty years.

“I got B. A. degree in Fordham University. Completed  Master’s degree thereafter. Did Ph.D in Sanskrit.

“I desired to become a priest at the age of 15 itself. Every week, when I used to go to church, I used to ask myself, “Should I become doctor, lawyer or engineer?”, addressing to God. The voice of God told him, “You should become a priest”!

“I learned Tamil at the University of Chicago from the alphabet stage. I learned both reading and writing of Tamil. I had understood the Tamil grammar well. I started reading small stories in Tamil – At my 29th age, I read many village-stories (folk-tales) and stories of spirituality, then, Sangam literature, Periya Puranam, Kamba Ramayanam, Tiruvacakam – and like this I read many.  I got interest in literature. The liking that I could not explain.

“I lost my mind in the Pasurams / poems of Tirumazhiyisai Azhwar, Peyazhwar and Andal. I like Nammazhwar most, as his Pasurams are simple, sweet, beautiful and attracting my mind Thus, I developed interest to read more and more of Nammazhwar’s Pasurams.

“I came to India only for the purpose of researching into Nalayira Divya Prabhantham. I went to the house of Tiruverngadam, the Vaishnava College Professor at Nepal and learned Nammazhwar’s Pasurams daily.

“Prof. Sampathkumar, Head of Logic department of Vivekananda College has been from the tradition of Manavalsa Mamunigal.  Prof. S. Ramanujachariyar, editor of “Tirumal” and Prof. Sampathkumar taught me Tiruvazhmozi Vyakyanam every Sunday. For this, I used to come to Madras for months together and even years together.

“As I have been Associate Professor of Theology at the Boston University, I am coming here on vocations to learn and then return (to attend to my duties).

“I used to get up at 5.30 in the morning; do Puja; go to Church and do Puja (prayer) in Tamil; after doing japam and dyanam, I used to listen to Tiriuvazhmozhi on cassettes for 10-15 minutes. Then, I take food.

“We should not see movies in the months of August, September and October. So, I see in other months. When I used to watch for Tamil movies, I used to take anyone as company, because, when somebody explains in Tamil only, I am able to understand (the movie).

“Generally, Sangam style (pani) – Nalayira Divya Prabhantham has been very nice. Though, the Pasurams have been with complications, thery have been with the usage of beautiful Tamil expressions. Particularly, I like the following two Pasuras of Nammazhawar:

[A free translation of the cited poems is given as follows (I just translate freely so as to test myself about my understanding):

  1. You helped this slave, when I am ignorant; because of such ignorance – without knowing your “ma-mayai” (the Great Secret), Mavali (Mahabali) donated the three-feet land to you; you thus cheated him demanding but measuring (the three Worlds) merging in my soul.
  1. I cannot give anything in gratitude back as it has been merged with my spirit; I gave my spirit into you and disappeared and there is no way to escape; as you drink the seven oceans, my spirit merged with you; what / where is my spirit? And who am I? You give and take away this body”]

Bama Gopalan: Can you write in Tamil? Why can’t you write 10 sentences in Tamil?

Clooney: Yes, I write (he writes with his left-hand. Clooney has been left-hand practicing person. What he wrote appeared on the front page of Kumudhamn dated 05-11-1992).

The translation has been as follows:

I read Divya Prabhandam, here in Chennai this year, because they attracted me most. Daily, I read Tiruvazhmozhi – in original and commentary. I would be very much happy, when I read these Pasurams or think about them. To know my Christanity, Nammazhar has been helping me a lot.                   Francis Clooney, S.J

This was published with the following comments: “The American Christian priest has come in search of Azwar”

Bama Gopalan describes the room where Clooney was staying:

“An American has been researching into Nalayira Divya Prabhantham composed by Azhwars.

“He is a Roman Catholic priest.

“Dialogue Centre” board is there on the building at “Ikkiya Alayam” situated on the Santhome High Road. Foreigners have been coming here staying and researching into many subjects.

“Francis Clooney has been one of them. He is about 5 feet 6 inches; his hair is reddish;  his beard has also been of the same (colour); lean body structure with spectacle; wearing dhoti

“His room, where he is staying has been rectangular. On the table at corner, there is a novel written by “Lakshmi”. Dinamani of the day and a copy of “Tirumal” magazine (are also there).

“There is another steel almirah without doors; Andal picture was on the top panel; then there are Dasavatara dolls (purchased at Mada veedhi, Mylapore during Navarathri).

“On the top panel, there is a cross made of palm-leaf”.

Clooney’s Father (name not mentioned)– : My father worked in the Police department for 27 years and retired now. He is 73 and has been giving counselling to youth of both sexes for their problems. However, he is not a trained psychologist. He would not talk in high pitch. He does not smoke and drink.

Clooney’s Mother – Zareen: She has immaculate and kind mind. She does not talk much. But raises her voice, when required. I became a priest, when I completed 18 years and 5 days. My mother blessed me and sent for priesthood.



“The Myth of St. Thomas in India” – the greatest historical fraud in the world

July 27, 2009
“The Myth of St. Thomas in India” – the greatest historical fraud in the world
Published on November 25th, 2007 In Uncategorized, Blogging, Philosophy | Views 1095 <!– by Vedaprakash –>

“The myth of St. Thomas in India” has been the greatest historical fraud in India and the world also and the historians have been shameless even to question such myth. Instead, they go on promote such myth aiding and abetting, as is evident from appearing so-called “research papers” in the proceedings of South indian History Congress, Tamilnadu history congress, textboks etc. It is a blot on historians, whenever, that fraud is perpetuated, nurtured or quoted in the name of history.

So I post the following article of K. P. Sunil appeared in 1987, which has bearing on the subject matter.

Archbishop Arulappa Makes History 1

By K.P. Sunil

Ganesh Iyer, Sri Rangam

Ganesh Iyer, Sri Rangam

The case has been closed. And the dramatis personae prefer to maintain a studied silence. For fear that a post-mortem would reveal hidden cadavers in their cupboards. For even a superficial examination of the fraud that shook the foundations of the Catholic Church in Madras in the late seventies and early eighties indicates that a lot of embarrassing details have been swept under the mat.

Reverend Dr. R. Arulappa, former archbishop of the Madras diocese, who claims to have been duped by one Acharya Paul, also known as Ganesh Iyer, is ill. Incapacitated by serious cardiac problems. In fact, it is his ill-health that forced him to retire from his post as head of the diocese. So the infamous scandal had to be pieced together from court records, police files and the ramblings of the main character-Ganesh Iyer.

It all began in the early seventies. Ganesh Iyer, who had adopted the Christian faith and was a self-styled Bible preacher known as John Ganesh, went to Tiruchi in the course of his evangelical journeys and met a Catholic priest Father Michael of the Tamil Illakiya Kazhagam (Tamil Literary Society). He is reported to have presented himself to the priest as Dr. John Ganesh, professor of philosophy and comparative religions at the Banaras university, and recently returned from Jammu and Kashmir where he was involved in research on Christianity in India. Michael put him on to another priest, Father Mariadas of Sriviliputhur.

John Ganesh impressed Mariadas with his mastery over Christian theology. He showed him copies of notices extolling him as a speaker. He reportedly produced letters written to him by various scholars in the fields of education and religion. He is also reported to have shown Mariadas photographs of palm leaf writings and copper plate inscriptions several centuries old.

These documents, he reportedly claimed, traced the origins and development of the Christian faith in India. Since further research on the subject required money which John Ganesh claimed not to have, Mariadas took upon himself the task of locating funds for the project the successful completion of which, he felt, would provide a shot in the arm for Christianity in India.

Mariadas gave John Ganesh something in the range of Rs. 22,000 toward the research. And as his own funds were depleted, he introduced the researcher to the head of the Catholic Church in Madras, R. Arulappa.

thomas-myth-manufacturers-Ganesh Iyer etc

Arulappa was a Tamil scholar who also had the reputation of being a researcher. He had translated the New Testament into Tamil and set to tune the Book of Psalms. He had also rendered in Tamil the life of Christ, Ulagin Uyir ( A The Life of the World ). He had learned Sanskrit and translated several Christian tenets into that language. He had also done extensive research on Tirukkural, the creation of the Tamil bard, Tiruvalluvar.

Tiruvalluvar is known to modern generations through his immortal literature. The exact time of his existence is lost in the mists of the hoary past. Some historians believe Tiruvalluvar to be a product of the early Sangam period in Tamil literature, several centuries before Christ. The Tamil Nadu government bases its calendar on the year of his birth. For this purpose, it is assumed that Tiruvalluvar was born exactly 2018 years ago, i.e. in the first century before Christ. Some literary experts place Tiruvalluvar in the first century after Christ, others date him 300 years after.

Just as little is known about Tiruvalluvar”s origins, his religious beliefs are also shrouded in some mystery. Attempts have been made, going by the precepts contained in his verse, to speculate about his religion. While he is widely believed to have been a Hindu and the Tirukkural considered a revered Hindu scripture, other religions too have staked a claim on him. Since the Tirukkural enshrines the ideals of ahimsa , dharma and asceticism, many experts consider Tiruvalluvar to have been considerably influenced by Jain thought.

A recent paper presented by Dr. S. Padmanabhan makes Tiruvalluvar out to be a Hindu chieftain from the Kanyakumari district. Archbishop Arulappa felt that the Tirukkural was so profound and filled with compassionate sentiments that it must have been influenced by early Christian missionaries who came to South India in the first century after Christ, notably St. Thomas, one of the apostles of Christ.

The Christian Church of India, considered to be amongst the oldest in the world, is believed to have been founded by St. Thomas in 52 A.D. Arulappa held the view that St. Thomas, before his martyrdom on a hill near Madras, now called St. Thomas Mount, met Tiruvalluvar and influenced the bard to the extent of converting him to the nascent faith. The theory had been propounded. What remained to be obtained was proof of such an occurrence.

It was this that Ganesh Iyer, posing as John Ganesh, reportedly promised to unearth for the archbishop.

Since this suited the archbishop”s scheme and since Arulappa was convinced that Ganesh was in a position to ferret out the evidence necessary to prove his pet theory, he engaged him to take up the research. The archbishop was apparently lulled into complacency by Ganesh”s mastery of Christian theology and his apparent sincerity of purpose. As if establishing a nexus between St. Thomas and Tiruvalluvar were not enough, John Ganesh also informed the archbishop that he could bring evidence that the three wise men from the East who prophesied the birth of Christ were none other than the epic Hindu sages, Vasistha, Viswamithra and Agasthya.

In 1975-76, John Ganesh began his research. And the archbishop started funding the same.

Ganesh produced photographs of palm leaf writings and copper plate inscriptions at periodic intervals. When the archbishop asked to see the originals, he was informed that they were stashed away in the safe custody of the archaeological departments and museums all over the country. It would therefore, not be possible to persuade these agencies to part with the priceless documents. He, however, promised to get his photographs authenticated by the respective agencies themselves. Thereafter, all photographs produced by Ganesh Iyer before the archbishop bore seals of the museums and departments from which he claimed to have obtained them.

Using the funds provided by the archbishop, Ganesh Iyer made a pretence of travelling extensively. It was a well-orchestrated programme. He would first inform the archbishop that he was going to Kashmir in connection with his research.

Next, the archbishop would receive letters from some Christian and Hindu religious heads in Kashmir informing him that they had come across Ganesh Iyer or, as he now called himself, Acharya Paul. The letters spoke in superlative terms about his sincerity of purpose and his noble research.

Whatever doubts the archbishop may have entertained about his researcher vanished in the face of these letters from eminent personages. More money changed hands. Though he was quite poor when he first met the archbishop, by the time he was through, Iyer had his own house in Srirangam. He owned two cars. He had purchased considerable gold jewellery for his wife and daughters. He had substantial deposits in banks in his name.

Most of the funds for the research had come from individuals and organisations abroad. If Iyer is to be believed, the archbishop even made out his personal car in Iyer”s name for a nominal Rs. 25,000. .i.Iyer;Iyer himself claims that he had not paid anything.

Questions were being asked around this time about the large sums of money being given to Acharya Paul for his research. The sceptics demanded proof that something tangible, that would benefit Christianity in the long run, had indeed been achieved. Only the archbishop”s pre-eminence prevented a direct confrontation.

Ganesh Iyer met Pope at Vatican

In 1976, Iyer obtained a passport in the name of Acharya Paul. In 1977, accompanied by the archbishop, he went abroad. To the Vatican, among other places, where he had a lengthy audience with Pope Paul VI. The duo then visited several religious congregations and spoke about comparative religions. Everywhere he went, he spoke about the origins of Christianity in India and about his A monumental research while the archbishop displayed the evidence. Money was collected for funding further research.

Ganesh Iyer met Pope at Vatican.Arulappa took him

During their absence from India, individuals inimical to John Ganesh had organised themselves into a powerful force. Even as he was relaxing in his home in Srirangam after his return, the archbishop was pressurised to file a complaint with the police. That he had been duped by Ganesh Iyer who had claimed to be a bachelor, but was in reality a married man. That he had defrauded the archbishop to the tune of around Rs. 14 lakhs in the name of research into Christianity.

Investigations into the sordid episode began. The police, led initially by Inspector Seshadri and later by Inspector Chandraya-perumal, searched Iyer”s residence. They unearthed the A originals of all the photographs produced by Iyer as proof of his research-writings on strips of brown paper cut to resemble medieval palm frond writings, pasted on sheets of white paper. The police learnt that the photographs had been taken at a studio in Tiruchi and this led to the seizure of all the relevant negatives.

The police discovered how the photographs had been authenticated by various institutions-seals and rubber stamps of all the concerned institutions were lying in Iyer”s home. Letter-heads bearing the names of various Hindu and Christian scholars were recovered. The letters purported to have been received by Iyer from these personages, which he allegedly used to dupe Mariadas and later the archbishop, were declared to be clever forgeries by the state handwriting expert Srinivasan. The writing on these and the writing on the brown paper, though cleverly disguised, compared favourably with Iyer”s specimen. Account books showing details of amounts received from the archbishop and the amounts spent by him were recovered.

Iyer”s antecendents were thoroughly investigated and it was proved that he was a middle school dropout, not having studied beyond standard seven. Further confirmation was obtained from the Banares university that they did not have Dr. John Ganesh on their staff either teaching or doing research into philosophy and comparative religions.

The police case was complete. On April 29, 1980, Iyer was arrested and placed under remand, while prosecution proceedings were instituted under sections 419 (cheating by impersonation), 420 (cheating and dishonestly inducing delivery of property), 465 (forgery), 471 (using as genuine a forged document), 473 (making and possessing counterfeit seals with intent to commit forgery) of the Indian Penal Code and under section 12-B of the Indian Passports Act (obtaining a passport supplying false information).

Archbishop Arulappa testified against Iyer before the court. Iyer initially pleaded innocence, but later admitted to the fraud on all counts. He prayed that in view of his advancing age and critical family circumstances, he be shown leniency.

Arulappa vs Ganesh Iyer

On February 6, 1986, P. Aruvudayappan, second metropolitan magistrate, Madras, delivered his judgment in case number 100087/82: A Taking advantage of the soft attitudes of public witnesses 2 and 3 (Father Mariadas and Father Arulappa), he averred, A the defendant (Ganesh Iyer) had taken from them about Rs. 13.5 lakhs between 1975 and 1980. This has been clearly established. Taking into consideration the nature of the offences, the defendant is being held guilty under various sections of the I.P.C. and has to undergo 10 months imprisonment and 5 month”s rigorous imprisonment under section 12-B of the Indian Passports Act. These sentences are to run concurrently. He had been arrested on April 29, 1980 and let off on bail on June 27, 1980. These 59 days of imprisonment are to be deducted from the total sentence as required under section 428 of the code of criminal procedure.

The magistrate”s judgment notwithstanding, doubts still linger. Why were the archbishop”s suspicions not aroused until he had handed over a whopping Rs. 13,49,250 (according to records, though Iyer claims to have received far in excess of that sum) on a spurious research project? Why had the archbishop not bothered to verify the authenticity of the A documents produced by Iyer with the museums and other institutions concerned, directly? Why did he not bother to accompany Iyer to the actual site of his A research when he had found time to accompany him to Rome, the Vatican, Germany, France, Spain, the United States?

With the archbishop still indisposed, answers to these questions are not forthcoming.

What is even more curious is that even as criminal proceedings against Iyer were in progress in the magistrate”s court, a civil suit for a compromise had been filed in the Madras high court. The compromise decree was taken up immediately after the conclusion of the criminal case. Since Iyer had admitted the offence, his jail term was reduced to a mere two months imprisonment. And since he had already served 59 days of remand, this period was adjusted against the sentence.


In other words, Iyer, who had defrauded the archbishop to the tune of about Rs. 14 lakhs, was let off without any further punishment. He was ordered to forfeit all claim on the money given to him by the archbishop. Accordingly, the ornaments and money seized from him by the police were returned to the archbishop. As part of the compromise, Iyer was allowed to retain the large bungalow he had purchased with the archbishop”s money.

A I agreed to this compromise because there was nothing else I could do, says Iyer. His viewpoint in understandable. For, going by the lower court”s verdict, he would have not only had to serve 5 months of rigorous imprisonment, but would have automatically had to forfeit all his properties including the house. Why the archbishop agreed to the compromise is not understandable.

Today Ganesh Iyer lives on the first floor of his house in Srirangam—the lower portion is let out on rent, enabling him to receive a monthly income. He is by no means affluent, but is certainly a far cry from the penury to which his family and he would have been consigned, if it were not for the compromise. Father Arulappa is convalescing, recovering from a major surgery. He has handed over the mantle of archbishop to Reverend G. Casimir on A health grounds .

And the case, though officially closed, remains in many minds, an unsolved mystery.

[1] Originally published under the title “Hoax!” in The Illustrated Weekly of India, April 26 – May 2, 1987, Bombay.


Is Indian Christianity built on frauds and forgeries?

July 27, 2009
Christianity in India: Historical frauds
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Is Indian Christianity built on frauds and forgeries? find the following write-up which gives connecting details of historical frauds carried on by the Christians, of course other details about the Christian healing centre, which has been in news for alleged killing of many and disposing the bodies.

The Indian historians have to respond how such questionable activities have been going on in the name of history and all historians are keeping quite?

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Christian faith healing mafia centre in Kerala secretly cremated murdered bodies

If you think ‘COMA’ type stories are possible only in the Western world, think again.  In

Kerala, the church is involved in murders of the christian faithful, who come to their faith

healing centre.  Recently in Tamil Nadu, four bishops stole Rs 40 crore meant for the

Tsunami victims and some of them are arrested under goondas act.  Kidney sale is a fact

in Tamil Nadu and some 500 poor persons were forced to sell their kidneys to the christian

hospitals operating there.

On 10 March 2006, the Kerala High Court issued an order with an ultimatum to the

government to make a thorough investigation on the public allegation against the Christian

Divine Retreat Centre in Muringoor in Kerala state, India. Justice Padmananbhan Nair has

ordered the government to make a thorough investigation about sexual abuse, homicide,

foreign exchange violation, forceful conversion, abduction, intimidation and imprisonment

of unwilling residents at the center.  The court decided to conduct the inquiry after

receiving a complaint from a former christian employee of the centre.  Some of the

inmates had made two video CDs and sent a letter to the court for necessary action

against the christian faith racket that was going on in Kerala with political and police

protection.  Divine Retreat Centre, started in the eighties, is a christian mafia faith healing

centre.  For several years, the general public and civic leaders have complained against

Muringoor Christian center about the foreign currency violation, sex abuse, misdemeanor,

felony, forceful conversion, murder, rape and abduction and medical malpractice

committed at the center. The Kerala christian Churches are organized on the lines of

Italian mafia and have undue influence on the government and government officials have

turned a deaf year to the public plea against the anti social activities at the Center.

Reluctantly, government has appointed IG Winson M Paul to investigate the Muringoor

Divine center.  The Marxist communist government of Kerala ordered only a partial

investigation for fear of Christian backlash.

One of the Muringoor Divine Center Director George Panackal filed a law suit demanding

one crore rupees for the police investigation and the High Court had dismissed the

frivolous law suit.  Pinaroy Vijayan, General Secretary of the Marxist communist Party,

who was recently caught with live cartridges at Chennai airport, paid a visit to the Center

and praised and admired their activities in public thus endorsing their illegal activities.

Many inmates were murdered for their wealth and the centre used to secretly cremate

murdered bodies at the corporation graveyard in Kalamassery. Divine Retreat Centre is

involved in illegal foreign funding to criminal and other activities.  Many inmates were gone

missing from this christian mafia centre over the years.  It has been stated that almost

twenty bodies have been burnt in the last four years alone. Dasan, the watchman of the

corporation graveyard in Kalamassery said that he used to get Rs 750 for burning each

body and that it was the same person who used to bring the bodies from the divine centre

always. A christian doctor, Dr Thankamma Francis of the divine centre was the doctor who

always used to issue death certificate to all those bodies cremated secretly.  It should be

noted that christians are not cremated in Kerala and are buried.  The police investigation

was carried out in Divine Retreat Centre on 30 September and 1 October 2006.

Sonia Gandhi had put christians in many states as the Inspector General of Police and

Kerala is also a christian by name Winson M. Paul.  The Kerala government had put

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Winson M. Paul for enquiring the illegal activities in the Divine faith healing centre and

constituted a police team under him based on the court directive. Several public servants

such as Inspectors General of Police and the wife of a State Minister are closely

associated with the functioning of the Divine Centre. They are also members of the

Advisory Body of the centre.  A group of senior IAS, IPS and other government officials of

Kerala are working behind this “underworld” operations of the faith healing centre. This

centre receives huge funds from the Social Welfare Department of Kerala government.

Some 9000 people are on the voters list of the christian faith healing centre.

The congress party in India is christian controlled.  The Italian catholic christian, Antonia

Maino alias Sonia Gandhi is the president of the congress party of India.   The congress

party of Kerala state is headed by a christian who is a front man of a Dubai based audio

video piracy firm that operates on a much bigger scale worldwide than that of Dawood

Ibrahim’s set up in Dubai. Christian politicians of Kerala like Umman Chandi and K.M.Mani

were funded by this centre.  Congress party members boycotted the Kerala assembly

proceedings when police raided the christian faith healing centre in Muringoor, Kerala.

The christian leaders like K M Mani tried to paint that police misbehaved towards christian

patients including women at the centre to divert the public attention from the main issue of

dozens of murders in the christian faith healing centre. The christian K.M. Mani was a

former law minister and claimed that police violated norms in the Criminal Procedure Code

and harassed HIV/AIDS patients who were being cured at the Divine faith healing centre.

K. M. Mani, on 3 October 2006 at the Divine Retreat Centre stated that the faith healing

centre has become an oasis for the poor, sick people abandoned by medical science and

a home of refuge for the mentally challenged people. He said that he always visited the

centre as he also felt mentally challenged at times.

After cornering the private education field in Kerala with the political clout, the Kerala

christians are now concentrating on medical field to raise funds for the christian

conversion work going on in India manned by the Kerala christians.  With the advent of

AIDS the christian church concentrated on faith healing to make money.  The faith healing

centers are a method to extract the last drop of blood from AIDS patients, drug addicts

and the like. The christian priests and nuns, who form the slave labor force of the church

runs educational institutions and medical centers. The christian priest Fr.Augustine

Vallooran, a Director of Divine Retreat Centre was arrested by the police.

A Christian fanatic has issued a death threat to Justice Padmanabhan Nair for ordering

the state government to probe the unlawful and anti social activities of the Muringoor

Christian Divine Center. The Marxist endorsement reinforced the Center to continue illegal

activities and motivated the Christian extremist to issue death threat against Justice

Padmananbhan Nair. The death threat was sent to Justice Padmanabhan Nair from an

Ernakulum Telephone Booth. The death threat was specifically made to Justice

Padmanabhan Nair warning him that he will be murdered for ordering investigation against

the illegal activities and forceful homicide at the Christian Divine Center. The death threat

against Justice Padmanabhan Nair shows the danger to India from the radical Christianity

of India and its unholy nexus between the Marxist Party.

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The Kerala christians, who call themselves as Syrian christians and claim that they are

decedents of Brahmin converts of St. Thomas, are the typical example of the christian

frauds.  The history of Christianity is crowded with crimes against humanity of the most

horrendous kind.    As many as 23,000 blatant forgeries and foisting of pious frauds were

done by christians. Starting with Jesus Christ, the entire doctrinal and institutional edifice

of Christianity rests on a series of staggering swindles and lies. The book ‘Native life of

Travancore’ written by The Rev. Samuel Mateer F L S  and published in 1883 have a

chapter called Syrian Christians from page 158.  Rev. Samuel Mateer while traveling

throughout Kerala had stayed in many places and had talked with many of the Kerala

Syrian christians.  He found that none of the converts have heard of Jesus Christ and

does not know why a cross was being worshiped.  Kotarakara Syrian church doorway was

sketched in his book and it shows a cock engraved along with the cross and armed

figures.  The book clearly indicates that the Syrian Christians of Kerala are the

untouchable Hindu caste called ‘Paraya community’ converts.  The marriageable ages of

boys were 10 years, and that of the girls were 7 years.  The married couple can enter the

house only after ‘nellum niram’ and with the lamp in the hand of the girl.  The women

make ‘kurava’ a shrill cry during this time.  Fasting for the dead are kept for a year by a

relative in the family. Syrian Christians consult sorcerers and offerings are made to the

demons (Hindu Gods).  When the head of the untouchable Hindu Paraya  community is

dead, as per the customary caste law of Parayas, they bury the corpus of the deceased

head Parayas or moopan  in sitting posture instead of the usual practice of keeping the

dead body in lying position. Primitive burial practices of Parayas are still being practiced

by the Syrian christians in Kerala.  The Syrian Christians of Kerala bury the corpse of their

christian bishops in the same manner as the Hindu Parayas who bury their head Parayas

or Moopan.  The historical records and even the burial patterns show that Syrian

christians of Kerala are Paraya converts. Syrian Christians of Kerala maintained the ritual

of offering obsequies for the souls of the dead ancestors as that of the practice of

Parayas.  The obsequies for the dead ancestors contained blood, flesh and intoxicating

drinks. These are all typical local Kerala customs of Paraya community.  Pope Benedict

XVI in 2006 said that St Thomas had preached Christianity in “western” India and did not

visit Kerala.  The Kerala Paraya christian converts created two conflicting stories to show

that they are of higher Hindu caste converts to Christianity.  One group of Paraya

christians, created a story that they were converts of Brahmins, by St. Thomas who had

arrived in Kerala in 52AD.  This fake St. Thomas story is proved to be a fraud after the

present Nazi Pope Joseph Ratzinger, who was a Hitler Youth and head of Opus Dei, told

that St. Thomas visited the present Pakistan and never went to Kerala.  This crooked

Paraya christians of Kerala operating from Tamil Nadu even created martyrdom for St.

Thomas in Chennai, in a fake story in which st. Thomas was killed by a Brahmin.  They

destroyed the Kapileswara temple near the seashore with the help of Europeans and

constructed a St. Thomas church using some of the temple stones.  These Paraya

christians of Kerala created a St. Thomas mount in Chennai from where they are now

selling sacred Thomas sand by the kilos, claiming that Thomas walked all over that area.

Another group of Paraya christian converts of Kerala claims that they are refugees from

Syria in AD 352, and created fake copper agreements in Portuguese language from

Kerala Kings to prove their arrival etc. The Paraya christians of Kerala, and the terrorist

muslims of Kerala migrated to Tamil Nadu to further their activities.  Christians along with

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the British created and propagated the Aryan invasion theory which convinced the black

Tamils that they are an inferior community different from the fair Brahmins.  This

propaganda has created a Dravidian movement in Tamil Nadu and created Tamil

Terrorists like E.V. Ramasami Naicker also known as Periyar or EVR.  In Tamil Nadu and

Kerala many dirty criminal Christian frauds happened.   The International Institute of Tamil

Studies, sponsored and funded by the Government of Tamil Nadu, had published in 1985­

86 a book titled Viviliyam,   Tirukkural, Shaiva Siddhantam Oppu Ayu. The writer of the

book was a Christian by name M. Deivanayakam. The University of Madras had conferred

a doctor’s degree on the author for writing this dissertation. The thesis propounded by him

was that the ancient Tamil saint, Tiruvalluvar, had become a disciple of St. Thomas and

converted to Christianity.    N. Krishnaswami Reddiar, a retired judge’ of the high court

denounced Deivanayakam’s book as “trash in the name of research.”  The visit of St.

Thomas to India was a myth, and wondered how a book like that by Deivanayakam could

be published by an institute set up by the Government and honored by the University of

Madras with a doctorate. Dr. R. Nagaswami, eminent archaeologist, also censored the

institute and the university for sponsoring a spurious thesis, and said that the St. Thomas

story “was a ruse to spread Christianity in India which is now confirmed by the Pope

himself. Deivanayakam had collaborated with Dr. R. Arulappa, the Catholic Archbishop of

Madras, in writing another but similar book, Perinbu Villakku, published in 1975. The

Archbishop had also tried to prove that Tiruvalluvar had come in contact with St. Thomas

during the latter’s travels in South India, and converted to Christianity. But he had gone

much further, and forged ‘evidence’ on palm­leaf scrolls in support of his thesis. He had

employed a Hindu scholar of Christianity, Ganesh Iyer, for this purpose, and paid him to

the tune of 15 lakh rupees. The fraud had been exposed when someone put the police on

the trail of Ganesh Iyer. The case had dragged on in the Madras metropolitan court from

1980 to 1986 when Ganesh Iyer was sentenced to ten months’ imprisonment on various

counts. But Dr. Arulappa had got him acquitted by means of a civil suit for compromise

filed in the Madras High Court at the same time that the criminal case was going on.

Ganesh Iyer had spilled the beans soon after.

Christian Slave traders of yesterday are the human rights activists of today.  Christianity a

trillion dollar business built on fraud and Greatest Cover Up in History.  Christians are a

fifth column community in India.  Kerala Paraya Christians moved in to Tamil Nadu to

create fake histories because they found that Tamilians left in Tamil Nadu have low IQ or

no IQ at all.  Nehru’s illegitimate child was growing up in a christian orphanage in

Bangalore, and this enabled them to blackmail Nehru to allow the missionaries to have

conversion by gun, in the North East states of India.  Antonia Maino coming from the

lowest strata of Italy and an illiterate girl, working as a barmaid in UK was presented by

Opus Dei and KGB in front of Rajiv Gandhi to continue the hold of christians in India.

Christians who worked as the agents of the British were en masse killed in Delhi, during

the first war of Independence in 1857.  Recently christian members of Indian Parliament

elected from all states had attended a meeting of a christian terrorist group of North

Eastern states. This christian terrorist group of North East calls for the creation of christian

nations out of North East India and the christian MPs promised them help.  Recently

Manipur’s congress party chief minister Ibobi Singh donated Rs 1.5 Crore to christian

separatists.  US Senator Barbara Boxer and ex President Jimmy Carter calls for Nagaland

to secede from India.  You have to understand that the Christian missionaries and

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militants have been working for years to bring most of the states of the northeast to

secede from India to become a separate Christian country, even if it means by force and

brutality. For example, few people seem to be aware that in the small state of Tripura

alone, over 10,000 people have been killed in the past 20 years by Christian militants

through what you could call ethnic cleansing. The killing is done to instill fear in those who

are not Christian, or who do not want to separate from India. And these militants are often

supported by the Christian groups who provide money and reasoning for what they do.

Southern Baptist Church forcing conversions at gun point.   The Baptist Church in

southern USA and the Presbyterian Church of the UK fund the Baptist Christian terrorists

that are active in India”s North­East.   Ex­Chief Election Commissioner, T.N. Seshan, told

this in a discussion in 1993. the terrorist groups like NLFT.    The Christian Groups in

America that fund armed insurgents in north east India to carry out ethnic cleansing and

killing in India should be declared as terrorist organizations by the Indian government.

Billy Graham well known Baptist leader openly praised the christian naga terrorists who

had killed some 300,000 Hindus in North East.  The Nagas, The NLFT, The NDFB are all

Baptists are christian terrorists and interestingly they all share terrorist camps with

islamists of Al­Quaida.  Christianity is the result of a huge conspiracy and is the single

most dangerous organization on earth that caused the death of half a billion humans in the

name of religion.  Islam pales in to insignificance as a terror organization in front of

Christianity with only seventy five million human beheadings to its credit.

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Indians demand answers from Sonia Gandhi on her links

Terrorists in North­East India get support from America

church backing Tripura rebels


Here is a Baptist website

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Dutch support revealed for rebels”, .

Terror in Tripura etc­%20Jan.6,%2001/oh4.htm.

As our eminent, progressive, secular, broad-minded, open-minded, liberal and what-not historians can discuss about Rama, Krishna etc., now, perhaps, time has come to discuss about this type of frauds, as they are contemporary and we can get evidences.

Surprisingly, why the historical forums like Indian History Congress, South Indian History Congress, and so many State History Congresses conduct conferences inviting the eminent historians for giving endowment lectures etc., do not bother about such a serious historical frauds, spurious copper plate manufacture, forged-documents and others going on in the name of History?

How it is possible?